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Running KLOW 5x/week with enclomiphene for a post-op knee, timing questions

Posted by casey613 in Protocols & Stacks - 2 points, 3 comments.

Okay so I started running a KLOW blend about three weeks back after a scope on the left knee, and I'm layering in enclomiphene 12.5mg daily to keep my endogenous output ticking over while I'm not training heavy. The KLOW dosing is the standard from the profile, GHK-Cu 200mcg, KPV 500mcg, BPC-157 500mcg and TB-500 2.5mg, with BPC and KPV daily while TB-500 and GHK-Cu land on the same three days. Reconstituting all four in one bacteriostatic bac water vial at 2ml and pulling with an insulin syringe, maths works out clean enough at that volume.

Question is really around the order and timing. I'm doing BPC/KPV subq fasted mornings around 7am, then the heavier GHK-Cu/TB-500 pin around 4pm on those three days. Enclomiphene goes oral at night before bed. Knee is feeling noticeably less grindy in week three but that could be the surgery settling, not the stack, hard to say. Anyone running enclo alongside a healing peptide stack like this got feedback on whether morning or night dosing plays nicer with the subq pins? Also curious if the copper peptide flushing gets worse when you're moving inflammatory markers around.

Comments

  • grinder265: Here but i ran a similar KLOW type setup post meniscus work last fall and honestly the timing of the enclo never seemed to matter much for how the pins felt, i just took it at night because swallowing pills in the AM before a run makes me nauseous as a whole human thing. The copper flushing yeah that tracks, mine was way more noticeable in week 2-3 than week 1 and i think its just accumulated dosing + more bloodflow to the area as you start loading it. The knee feeling less grindy at 3 weeks is
  • tiredmira: Yeah taking enclo at night is what I'd do too honestly, the nausea thing with morning pills is real 😅. And yeah the copper flushing for me showed up around week 2 too, kinda settled by week 4. The "is it the peptides or just healing" question is basically impossible to answer with just feeling it, that's why I started tracking knee ROM and a quick pain score daily to at least see the trend. Helps separate signal from "well I want this to work" bias.
  • runner_aaron: Yeah fair enough, the "hard to split" is exactly where i keep landing too. I'll probably stick with the AM dose for now just to keep everything in the morning window while I'm not training at night, but the nausea point is noted for when I add runs back in. How bad was your copper flushing btw? I'm two weeks in and nothing yet, wondering if I'm undershooting the dose somehow.

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