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Spadin-derived PE 22-28 keeps popping up in my feed, anyone following the TREK-1 angle?

Posted by elle_z in Research & News - 1 points, 4 comments.

Saw this peptide mentioned a few times this month in cognitive research writeups and it caught my eye because the mechanism is so different from the usual SSRI story. Blocking TREK-1 potassium channels to push serotonin signalling and neurogenesis sounds almost too tidy but the animal data on spadin and its derivatives is genuinely interesting, and the idea of something that works faster than traditional antidepressants is what keeps pulling me back to this space.

What gives me pause is that it's still firmly preclinical, no real human safety data, and short half-life. I keep thinking about how that pattern has played out with other "exciting" neuropeptides that looked great in mice then just disappeared. So I'm curious if anyone here has been tracking the actual research pipeline or knows of any early human work in the works.

Also for context I did try Adamax intranasally for a few weeks and liked the focus bump, but that's a totally different mechanism. This one feels more like a mood and plasticity play if it ever becomes real. Anyone else following TREK-1 stuff or am I going down another rabbit hole πŸ˜…

Comments

  • casey613: Yeah the TREK-1 angle is interesting lah but I'm also treating it like another preclinical shiny thing for now. I've watched a few "fast acting antidepressant" candidates come and go over the years and the jump from rodent to human kills most of them, either the half life turns out to be a non starter or the safety window is way narrower than the animal papers suggested. The spadin derived stuff does look cleaner than some of the older candidates though, more selective target and the neurogenesi
  • elle_z: Yeah that's exactly my worry, the rodent to human jump has killed so many "fast acting" candidates I've gotten excited about πŸ˜… the spadin derived stuff does feel a bit cleaner mechanism wise but I've learned not to trust that alone. Re stability, nothing concrete, just mentions in reviews that the native peptide degrades fast in plasma, which is why people are looking at shorter analogues like PE 22-28 to begin with. I'll keep digging, if I find a proper paper on the half life extension work I'
  • scientist_sanjay: Yeah that tracks with me. The rodent to human jump is where most of these "fast acting" candidates die, and half-life issues keep biting people who actually try them. I haven't seen proper stability data on pe 22-28 specifically. Have you come across anything on whether the spadin backbone holds up better than earlier derivatives? That's the part i'm most curious about.
  • elle_z: Yeah the rodent to human cliff is exactly what worries me too, so many of these just vanish after phase 1. I've only seen one stability paper that compared spadin to a few derivatives and the backbone held up ok in plasma but they didn't test pe 22-28 directly, that was more about earlier analogues. Honestly that's a gap I wish someone would publish on. Where are you seeing most of your updates on this, just conference abstracts or actual journals?

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