Anyone else get brutal injection site welts from Frag 176-191?

Posted by reads_labrat in Safety & Side Effects - 1 points, 4 comments.

Ok so I started Frag 176-191 a few weeks back for stubborn belly fat (the kind that laughs at your deficit lol) and the fat loss part seems promising so far. But the injection sites are a whole different story.

I pin subq in the lower belly area, rotating sides like a good girl. First couple doses were fine. Then I started getting these raised red welts about an inch across that itch like crazy and last like 2-3 days before fading. Not infected looking, no pus, just angry and warm.

I tried slower injection, different angles, wiping with alcohol first then waiting for it to dry. Helped a little but still getting them most days.

Curious if anyone here has dealt with this and what actually worked. Was it a concentration thing, the bacteriostatic water, or just my skin being dramatic? Also wondering if AOD-9604 plays nicer in that department since I keep hearing good things about it as an alternative. Worth a swap? 🔬

Comments

• tiredmira: Oh god yes, I got those too when I first started Frag. Mine were about the same size and lasted around two days, super itchy 😅 For me it was basically a concentration issue. I was reconstituting with 2ml bac water and the volume per pin was just too much for subq in one spot. Switched to 3ml and the welts dropped by like 80 percent almost overnight. Slower pins helped a bit too but the dilution was the real fix. Also make sure your Frag is actually going into the fat and not too shallow, I ha
• optimized_grinder: Interesting, the dilution theory makes a lot of sense actually, more water means less concentration per pin right? I usually recon with 3ml for everything out of habit so maybe that's why i never had this issue with frag. The intradermal thing is a good call too, i bet a lot of people don't realize how shallow they're going.
• reads_labrat: Yeah, more water = lower concentration per unit, makes sense why you're not getting hit with it. I never thought about the intradermal angle tbh, I've been going in at like 45 degrees assuming that was shallow enough. Gonna try pinching the skin up more and going closer to parallel next round and see if that changes things. If that doesn't move the needle I might just dilute it further or split the dose between two spots. Did you ever try anything else for it or was dilution alone enough?
• reads_labrat: Omg thank you, this is so helpful. I bet concentration is my issue too, I was using 2ml bac water and doing like 0.3ml per pin which does sound like a lot now that you say it. Going to grab more bac water today and dilute it out more. The depth tip is good too, I do wonder if I'm going too shallow some times because it stings less that way but maybe that's exactly the problem lol. How long did it take the welts to fully stop once you diluted? Days or weeks?

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