KLOW vs GLOW for someone finishing a Wolverine cycle, how do you decide?
Posted by fasted_scientist in Protocols & Stacks - 1 points, 4 comments.
Right so I am coming to the end of a Wolverine cycle (BPC + TB-500, about 8 weeks in for a niggling shoulder issue that finally seems to have calmed down). Original plan was just to stop, but I have got a decent amount of GHK-Cu and KPV left over from a bulk order and I am wondering whether to transition into KLOW or GLOW rather than just ending cold turkey.
The way I am thinking about it, KLOW adds KPV on top for the inflammation angle, which seems useful if the joint is still grumbling. GLOW drops KPV and keeps GHK-Cu plus BPC and TB-500, so it is more of a skin and collagen play from what I have read.
Has anyone actually run both back to back and noticed a difference? And is it daft to keep TB-500 ticking over at 2.5mg twice a week for another month, or should I drop it now that the shoulder is mostly sorted and let BPC-157 and the rest do the heavy lifting?
Cheers, ngl I am going back and forth on this one.
Comments
- tiredmira: I've done something similar after a shoulder flare (rotator cuff tendinopathy that just wouldn't quit). TB-500 at a maintenance dose is honestly overkill once the pain is mostly gone. I kept BPC for another 3-4 weeks and dropped the TB, and my HRV actually bounced back faster than when I tried to keep both going. Not scientific, just my own data. Between KLOW and GLOW, I went KLOW because my shoulder was still a bit warm. Didn't notice dramatic skin stuff either way after 6 weeks, so if you ca
- fasted_scientist: Cheers for that, tiredmira. The HRV point is interesting, I haven't been tracking mine consistently but I did notice my resting heart rate crept up a bit in the last couple of weeks which I just put down to poor sleep. Yeah the shoulder isn't fully quiet yet, there's still a bit of grumbling on overhead press so I Reckon KLOW makes more sense than GLOW for me. Dropping the TB and keeping BPC for another few weeks sounds sensible too. How long did you run KLOW for in total before you called it d
- grinder265: The HRV angle is interesting, i wonder if thats the TB clearance or just dropping the injection stress. Ive found TB maintenance doses tend to make my resting HR slightly elevated anyway so wouldnt surprise me. And yeah if theres any warmth left in the joint KLOW seems like the obvious call, the KPV hit on top of BPC gives you that extra anti-inflammatory layer without stacking another peptide just for the sake of it.
- fasted_scientist: Cheers mate, yeah that is what I keep going back and forth on tbh. The shoulder is maybe 85% there, some mornings it still feels a bit warm if I sleep on it wrong, so KLOW does make sense for another 3 or 4 weeks before I drop everything. Interesting on the TB and resting HR, I had not clocked that. Could just be that I am paying more attention now the cycle is winding down, but I will keep an eye on my watch data over the next week or so. If I see a clear drop after stopping TB I will know.
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