KLOW base + slow sema ramp, timing the appetite cliff against actual training fuel

Posted by grinder265 in Protocols & Stacks - 1 points, 3 comments.

Been running a KLOW base for achilles and general connective tissue maintenance, twice a week, nothing crazy. Trainer floated the idea of layering in low dose compounded semaglutide to drop about 8 lbs of off season fluff before a spring ultra block. The math checks out, but what worries me is the timing.

Sema kicks in around week 2 to 3 for me historically, and by week 4 food just becomes a chore. If im in the middle of a 90 mile week when that appetite cliff hits, im not recovering. Period. Last time i tried this i bonked on a 22 miler and my HRV went to garbage for 10 days.

Thinking about front loading calories in a 4 hour window around long runs, or honestly just starting at 0.25 once weekly and staying there for 6 full weeks before even looking at a titration. Would rather lose the weight slower than wreck a build.

How are you guys sequencing a GLP against real training volume? Do you drop mileage during the ramp, or just brute force the food in and hope for the best?

Comments

• fasted_scientist: Honestly mate, the appetite cliff is the bit nobody warns you about. One week you're forcing chicken and rice down, next week a protein shake feels like a chore. Staying at 0.25 for 6 weeks sounds sensible to me (ngl, slower is usually smarter with these). Front loading calories around the long run window is a decent workaround too, basically giving your body the fuel when it actually needs it and coasting the rest of the day. The thing i'd push back on is the "brute force the food in" option.
• grinder265: Yeah the HRV thing is exactly why im nervous. That 10 day garbage stretch cost me a build cycle last time i got aggressive with the dose. The front load thing isnt really brute force though, more like... Deliberately timing the carb dense window around when training actually demands it. Rest days are gonna be brutal, not gonna lie. But thats why i wanna go slow on the titration, give myself room to eat on volume days without the cliff catching me mid week.
• grinder265: The HRV thing is exactly what i keep circling back to. Its not like a scale number that could be water weight or whatever, thats autonomic disruption. Kinda tells me the system is choosing between repair and metabolism and losing. The brute force approach died in my head after that 10 day hole. Not worth it. Question though, did you find the front load window helps enough to actually keep HRV stable or is it more just mitigating damage at that point?

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